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Auditors 2016

elisa_89910 (elisa_89910 ,elisa_encinar@yahoo.es) Fri, 08/12/2016 - 13:22

Auditors 2016 Can we expect the results during July? Thus the second stage during september, or will it take longer?

Dear Elisa,

David @ EU Training Mon, 08/15/2016 - 11:48

Dear Elisa,

We do not have any specific dates as EPSO has not released any, but according to our estimates the earliest that the CBT results could possibly be released is the end of August, but most likely it will be the end of September.

Kind regards,

David @ EU Training  

Hi!

marianabizna Tue, 09/20/2016 - 16:08

Hi!

The result  at AD 5 audit was given today. But they didn't announced the final score(number of points) for passing the exam. They given  only the points made from total points. 
Can anyone to say who passed the CBT which was the minimum score ? Thanks!

Congratulations for all of

marianabizna Wed, 09/21/2016 - 17:09

Congratulations for all of you who have taken the CBT for AD5 audit with more than 34 points(85%).

How to get this score? I am in a second year of preparation for CBT but I done only 55-68%.

I was practising 2 hours per

Acero_89557 Thu, 09/22/2016 - 08:33

I was practising 2 hours per day with the tests provided by Eutraining and I got 36 in AD 5, its just practise and practise!

Practising for how many years

clara.ghe_87739 Thu, 09/22/2016 - 10:06

Practising for how many years? Because the level of difficulty on the verbal and abstract tests on this site has nothing to do with the real thing. I achieved to get over 30 but not due to the practice center on this site...

I used books of tests too,

Alex Thu, 09/22/2016 - 10:20

I used books of tests too, although I must say that the ones on this site were pretty good (I bought mine a while ago but I seem to remember you could specify difficulty - I just did the hard ones). For me, getting used to time pressure, and exam technique, was just as important as doing the questions themselves. One of the difficult things for me to learn was being able to leave a question I was spending too much time on (i.e. random guess and mark) - it is so easy to spend too much time on a single question and then fail to finish (also to bear in mind that they are not in order of difficulty in the real thing, so you may get stuck on a really hard one early on, then not have enough time to answer the easier ones later on.

So, how many times have you

clara.ghe_87739 Thu, 09/22/2016 - 10:25

So, how many times have you tried to pass an EPSO exam?

I think I have tried two

Alex Thu, 09/22/2016 - 10:54

I think I have tried two Audit AD7 exams initially, failed CBT by 0.5% each time,

then as Assistant, passed CBT and Assessment Centre, but failed Case Study (grrr),

then passed Assistant - currently working as official,

now going for AD 7 again - glutton for punishment I guess.....

Hi, what is the 0.5%, what

Acero_89557 Thu, 09/22/2016 - 11:53

Hi, what is the 0.5%, what did you get to be out for this percentage??

|Thank you!

First one - I got 68.5/80,

Alex Thu, 09/22/2016 - 12:20

First one - I got 68.5/80, minimum mark for AC was 69.

Second one - I got 62.5/70, pass mark for assessment centre was 63.

At least one of the half marks occassions was from Situational Judgment.

Probably obvious from the

Alex Thu, 09/22/2016 - 10:58

Probably obvious from the above, but persistence (or pig-headedness) is also important!!

And no, you can no longer

clara.ghe_87739 Thu, 09/22/2016 - 10:27

And no, you can no longer specify the level of difficulty. You buy an AD pack and you presumably have an AD level of difficulty. Years ago you had the possibility to choose the level of difficulty.

Currently our practice centre

David @ EU Training Thu, 09/22/2016 - 15:17

Currently our practice centre does not allow users to manually select the level of difficulty, but rather it is pre-set by us via our algorithms to mirror the actual EPSO exams per profile. This means each practice test will feature questions with a variety of difficulty levels as experienced at the actual EPSO exams. 

When using the Practice Centre, there is a difference between using the "Profile Selection" tool to generate practice tests or manually adding the number of questions you wish to take per test type. Our algorithms work differenlty via the profile select tool and manual selection. That is, step 1: select mode (practice mode or exam mode); step 2: profile selection (select which EPSO exam you are preparing for); step 3: compose test (select which language you would like to practice in); Start Test.

On our old website, users could select the level of difficulty manually. The problem we faced with this was, either users used up the most difficult questions too quickly or felt that it was not representative of the actual EPSO exam experience. However, we are considering re-introducing this feature, so that users can choose a preference.

I hope this clarifies the situation.

Kind regards,

David @ EU Training

Interesting response David -

Alex Thu, 09/22/2016 - 15:39

Interesting response David - thanks.

I certainly appreciated selecting difficult only (you can already have the experience of easy/medium/hard through your sample tests and through the EPSO website). As long as you make it clear to the user what they are actually buying. If I am preparing for an exam I would like to practice at a harder level than the actual exam - if I can manage that, the actual exam should be manageable (taking into account the extra stress/unfamiliarity). Personal preference, but I like having the choice available.

Yes, I think practice in exam

Alex Thu, 09/22/2016 - 08:35

Yes, I think practice in exam conditions is really important, I can't see a short way round. Also mark questions you got wrong the first time round and keep going through them.

Hi,

g_papachristou_89508 Thu, 09/15/2016 - 08:10

Hi,

i would like to know if you have any further information about when the results of CBT will be announced..

Thank you

The results of CBT were

asta.borin_90452 Tue, 09/20/2016 - 08:55

The results of CBT were announced today.

 

Now that the results are

skase5@hotmail.com Tue, 09/20/2016 - 10:26

Now that the results are announced,when can we expect the next step-the admission or not to the talent screener ?

Would you like to share your

M Tue, 09/20/2016 - 11:39

Would you like to share your score?

Hi, I've got 36/40 for AD5, I

adinadg Tue, 09/20/2016 - 11:53

Hi, I've got 36/40 for AD5, I am not sure when and what to expect further. Will my file be checked for eligibility, did I get enough to pass to the next stage? I am curious about other people, would you please share your score here?

 

For me I got 35/40, AD5 as

M Tue, 09/20/2016 - 11:57

For me I got 35/40, AD5 as well

35/40 for AD7

skase5@hotmail.com Tue, 09/20/2016 - 12:07

35/40 for AD7

When is expected a list of

clara.ghe_87739 Tue, 09/20/2016 - 14:51

When is expected a list of those who'll go to the assessment center?

 

32/40 for AD/ for me.

Vincenzo Auricchio Tue, 09/20/2016 - 15:04

32/40 for AD/ for me.

Basically we don't know which is the floor Epso is going to set for the Talent Screener, but it is supposed to be between 32/33, having a look at the previous competition (which is not even a perfect rule for comparision but gives you an idea...!)

What I really don't understand is the timing..... What is clear is that in 2/3 days we will have the result of those admitted to the talent screener, when EPSO will publish the minimum score to be admitted to the TS.

BUT, reading the Notice of competition it is clear that for AD7 they are going to invite to the AC a maximum of 45 candidates (3 times the n° of the reserve list).... So I suppose they are going to screen at least 200/250 talent screener.... We will see the number of TS's they are going to screen!!

Taking into account that the AC has been set for 01/2017, in my opinion we are supposed to wait at least until the end of November to have some news about the TS results!

 

Rrrr I got 30 out of 40 AD7

elisa_encinar_89910 Tue, 09/20/2016 - 16:54

Rrrr I got 30 out of 40 AD7-my strength was the situational test, but since they don't use it anymore...- so I hope they ask for a bit less.

I woudn't be so sure about the next stage being in January since they took almost a month longer in releasing the first results.

Let's hope the threshold will

Vincenzo Auricchio Tue, 09/20/2016 - 17:04

Let's hope the threshold will be less than 30!!

If you see this link

http://blogs.ec.europa.eu/eu-careers.info/2015/04/17/admission-results-p...

Generally they publish the threshold after 2/3 days from the comunication of your result.... so let's hope so, and by the end of the week we will know if we are in the talent screener or not... Now it's only a matter of threshold, since the CBT mark is not summarized to the talent screener mark... It is only a way of making a skim of the candidates!

Anyway.... FINGER CROSSED!!!

Hello all - AD7 35/40

alisdairmacleod@hotmail.co.uk Wed, 09/21/2016 - 08:56

Hello all - AD7 35/40

So I am not clear at all about what happens next. It appears from the replies above that they will shortly announce minimum score to go through to the talent screeener, from previous experience this should be within a week of announcing the CBT results. Have I got that right?

I was thinking that, say they needed 150 to go through to talent screener stage, and when checking eligibility, they found that 24 didn't meet minimum elgibility, that they would then go back and select the 'next' 24 from the people that didn't get through the next time, but if they are already announcing the minimum score, then they won't do that (i.e. they will only consider Talent Screener for 126?). Have i got that right?

Going through that many talent screeners (and presumably CVs) is going to take a long time I guess. Anybody have an idea of when they will announce when the successful ones go through to assessment centre?

I didn't really spend enough time on my talent screener, so not very hopeful about going through to next round (kind of irritating too that they asked about experience about auditing EU institutions - seems to favour existing EU auditors, which doesn't seem fair in a general competition, and presumably doesn't therefore ensure you select the best people for the job on the basis fo ability).

 

 

Hello,

skase5@hotmail.com Wed, 09/21/2016 - 17:48

Hello,

i wanted to reply to you from my personal experience. I participated in the EPSO/AD/293/14 competition. The CBT results had come out on 19/03/2015, but the admission or not to the TS, on 15/04/2015. I really don't think it is a matter of 2-3 days, for the threshold to be announced, but rather 3 to 4 weeks. And besides the threshold is decided upon the candidates with the highest marks, who are also checked for eligibility. They don't set a threshold, without having looked at the eligibility criteria. Once they do this, they have the number of people they want (e.g. if they want 150, they will start form the 150 candidates with the highest marks, and if for example all are eligible, they won't have a look at anyone else's application. How this number, the 150, is decided upon, is another issue, it says it is decided by EPSO. The 150, which all are eligible, will then be narrowed down to 45, according to the score they achieve based on the answers they gave at TS), and from that pool they are going to select, based on the TS, the ones who will proceed to the AC. It is made quite clear in the Notice of Competition as well: "If the computer-based MCQ tests are organised upfront, the files of the candidates will be checked for eligibility in descending order of the marks obtained until the number of eligible candidates reaches a certain threshold defined for each grade by EPSO acting as Appointing Authority. The other files will not be checked."

Hope it helped and good luck

Yes, great, many thanks,

Alex Wed, 09/21/2016 - 18:16

Yes, great, many thanks, makes sense to me. Something I really struggle with in competitions is getting my expectations right for when I will be informed at each sub stage (ie the marks themselves are not really of any significance to me). the key stages are:

Have you gone through to Talent Screener?

Have you been invited to Assessment Centre?

But neither of these dates are clear in EPSO communicaations, grrrr!

Hello alisdairmacleod@hotmail

Vincenzo Auricchio Wed, 09/21/2016 - 09:24

Hello alisdairmacleod@hotmail.co.uk,

first point: right!

second point: they have 15 people for the reserve list, this means (looking at the Notice of competition) that they are going to invite not more than 45 candidates to the Assessment Center. I really don't know how it works, but I think that they have the experience to understand how many people they need to find 45 good candidates for the AC in Brussels... This means that probably they will screen, let's say, 200 Talent Screener.... So they will take the result of the CBT, sort it, and look which is the minimum score to take 200 good candidates to screen.... THe CBT score, at this point, does not count anymore, because they are going to give points to the TS of every candidate. At the end, they will do the "standing" and invite the first 45 to the AC. Having a look at the EU planning, the AC is not going to be organized before 01/2017, this means that, if we are in the Talent Screener, we will have to wait at least until the end of November/start of December to have some news.....

If it makes you happier.... I either didn't spend so much time on the TS, since I didn't read well the Notice of Competition... It was for me the first application for EPSO, and I was not used to this kind of Selection procedures....!

Anyway.... Good Luck!!!

Thanks Vincenzo!

Alex Thu, 09/22/2016 - 11:27

Thanks Vincenzo!

Hi all,

Acero_89557 Wed, 09/21/2016 - 12:43

Hi all,

I am quite confused with the Talent Screener, because I have read in a few places that this affects both AD5 and AD7, but for example in the Question part of this article they says that is only regarding AD7, so How can I know if this affects AD5?? hThere's no sense to open a position with no experience required and then do a talent Screener right?

http://eutraining.eu/content/2016-epso-auditor-exams-epsoad32216-informa...

Thank you in advance!

Yes Acero, having a look at

Vincenzo Auricchio Wed, 09/21/2016 - 14:12

Yes Acero, having a look at the notice of competition it is said that "For each grade, the selection board will assign each selection criterion a weighting that reflects its relative importance (1 to 3) and each of the candidate’s responses will be awarded between 0 and 4 points".

The important phrase is FOR EACH GRADE. This means that when evaluating the TS for an AD5 candidate, they give a different weight to, for example, the work experience than for the evaluation of the TS for the AD7 grade.

But, for example, there are people who applied for the AD5 because they had 2 years of relevant experience in the field of audit (so not enough to apply for the AD7) and they probably give them a different award than another candidate who has not this experience.

You can have no or a few experience in the field of audit, but, for example, have a professional accountancy qualification, experience in the consultancy field, experience in other economical field... 

I hope I was as clear as possible!

Best,

Vincenzo

That makes it clear,

Acero_89557 Thu, 09/22/2016 - 14:51

That makes it clear,

Thank you very much!

Hi

luciehof Fri, 10/07/2016 - 10:12

Hi
Any idea when they will send the notification regarding the assessment center?

What should be next step, the

Acero_89557 Fri, 10/07/2016 - 10:20

What should be next step, the invitation to the assestment centre?
Or they do in two steps, first with a comunication of the mark required and then the personal invitation to the assestment centre?

Does anyone know anything about it?

In two steps

luciehof Fri, 10/07/2016 - 12:14

In two steps

1st Release Marks

elisa_encinar_89910 Fri, 10/07/2016 - 14:41

1st Release Marks

2nd Release Minimum required Mark and Invitations to AC.

3rd Brussels exam at AC.

4rth Release of Reserve Lists

5th Wait for 7months-a year , though in Specialist examinsations reserve lists may last up to 3 years- and get your position -may require individual interviews aside from the AC stage.

Oh and the AC Brussels stage

elisa_encinar_89910 Fri, 10/07/2016 - 14:50

Oh and the AC Brussels stage is planned for January 2017.

examinations*

elisa_encinar_89910 Fri, 10/07/2016 - 14:42

examinations*

BTW, someone said it would

elisa_encinar_89910 Fri, 10/07/2016 - 14:47

BTW, someone said it would take only a couple of days for EPSO to release the minimum Marks. However, we are already on our third week since the initial release of our individual marks and we have had no news. Do we have any news or expectation? Its a tough year since so many examinations have been cancelled and they shouldn't have too much to do. 

And, was the number of candidates almost 6000 for BOTH AD5 and AD7 or where there more?

Cheers,

Elisa

Good afternoon,

bonins10 Tue, 10/18/2016 - 15:01

Good afternoon,

It has now been indeed a while since EPSO communicated the scores obtained in the CBTs. Personally I unfortunately obtained a low score this year: 27/40 in the AD7 competition, but was thinking that  maybe EPSO  set a low threshold for TS admission and is currently reviewing  a high number of candidates profiles, which would explain why it is taking some much time for releasing the results for being or not admitted to the assessment center. Does anyone have more information on this ongoing selection step?

Cheers,

Stephanie  

Hi Stephanie!

elisa_encinar_89910 Tue, 10/18/2016 - 18:14

Hi Stephanie!

I believe the delay has been due to the pressure on EPSO to change the examination language and, even it is not getting mentioned, the UK's Brexit. After all, the EPSO's headquarters used to be in London and I guess they currently have to relocate, change some staff, etc.

As for the marks, I got a 30 so I'm also hoping they ask for less. On this, there has been a trend for the last 3 or 4 years, in which they seem to have dropped 2 points every year, so they might drop again.

As well, there has been a post somewhere in this conversation in which there is a link to marks required in the 2014 or so for ADs, and there was a 29. So who knows what they might ask for, just wait and see. And maybe they take into account that we no longer have the Situational and that previously we were only required pass grades in maths -but the degree of difficulty does not seem to have varied.They should release any day now. And, as you say, the do revise 9 times more the required candidate's profiles, so maybe they decrease the relevance of grades yet increase the importance of our resume and experience, otherwise the number wouldn't make too much sense. After all, if you have less years of experience authomatically the epso system won't allow you to apply. So I guess they care about more than just the years.

Good luck!

Elisa

Hi Elisa,

bonins10 Wed, 10/19/2016 - 09:08

Hi Elisa,

Thank you very much for these info, quite helpful ! just a comment on EPSO Headquarters,  these are located in Brussels where I am based since at least 2010. So wait and see and good luck to you as well !!!

All the best,

Stephanie

Really? I had to call last

elisa_encinar_89910 Wed, 10/19/2016 - 14:10

Really? I had to call last year due to an incident in the New York examination center and the phone number and I thought it had had England's prefix! Sorry, my mistake.
Best,
Elisa
 

Does anybody know in the case

Acero_89557 Fri, 10/21/2016 - 14:05

Does anybody know in the case you get into the reservation list for how long are you there?

It used to be 7months for a

elisa_encinar_89910 Fri, 10/21/2016 - 17:48

It used to be 7months for a 50% of the candidates in the reserve list, to a year for the other 50% , though in Specialist examinations reserve lists may last up to 3 years, though they also may require individual interviews aside from the reserve list.

HOWEVER, they now say you must be available inmediately. But the epso's sense of immediacy is at the least, peculiar. Its better if you get in touch with them directly to see what they mean. 

I think you are the one with the 36 in the AD7, right? If you are and you have the required experience and answered the questions in the Talent Screener, you will probably be one of the first to go.

Hi, thanks for your fast

Acero_89557 Fri, 10/21/2016 - 18:48

Hi, thanks for your fast reply.

I got 36 but for AD5, I studied Economics, I have been one year working as management consultant and currently I am working as revenue management Analyst, so I guess my profile is good for the position.

But I dont speak french and I dont know if this could be a problem

Not for the moment. There is

elisa_encinar_89910 Fri, 10/21/2016 - 19:12

Not for the moment. There is a rather strong current in the EU saying they will no longer use English since there is only Ireland and Malta left. But I don't think its likely since English is the most common working language.

I do think they were going to include a second language test at the assesment center -check the news on eutraining.com- so you might want to get into a French or German course fast -I might be getting confused with an English test, but it wouldn't make any sense if the exam is in English.

I'm sure there are intensive language courses at the French lnstitute or Goethe institute wherever you are.

Good luck and congrats!

Elisa

HI Elisa,

Acero_89557 Mon, 10/24/2016 - 09:44

HI Elisa,

I am little bit cunfused with the second part of your reply:

"I do think they were going to include a second language test at the assesment center -check the news on eutraining.com- so you might want to get into a French or German course fast -I might be getting confused with an English test, but it wouldn't make any sense if the exam is in English."

So could be possible they include a new language test (in french or german I guess)? I have checked the news here and I dont have seen anything about it.

They ewre going to include it, but finally tehy are not going to do that? or maybe they are thinking to do that for the future?

Could you clarify me your opinion about it? 

Thank you!

Dear Acero,

David @ EU Training Mon, 10/24/2016 - 11:46

Dear Acero,

At this stage there is no final response concerning how the General Court’s judgements and Brexit will affect the languages used at the EPSO exams (especially the Assessment Centre). All we have at the moment is what we have stated in our Suspended EPSO Competitions - What We Know And What To Expect article.

How this situation will play out exactly is hard to tell, but we do expect that EPSO will be forced to expand on the number of languages used in the Assessment Centre.

From a practical point of view it is unlikely that all 24 official EU languages will end up being used at the Assessment Centre, but it is possible to imagine that a few extra languages, such as Italian, Spanish or Polish, may be added to the Assessment Centre phase.

Kind regards,

David @ EU Training

Hi David, thank you for your

Acero_89557 Mon, 10/24/2016 - 14:27

Hi David, thank you for your fast reply.

I did not see the updates, but in the case they accpet using new languages like Spanish or Italian it would continue being unfair to other languages, so they could apply the same principles to try to use their languages in the assestment centre.

And in the case you speak Spanish or Italian fluency how would you work in a EU institution if the langueage for work there is not any of those languages?

It is a really difficult topic to fix and in my opinion should continue how it was before, even thinking that is and advantage for the native of English, french and German. 

Thank you.

Hi Acero,

elisa_encinar_89910 Mon, 10/24/2016 - 14:45

Hi Acero,

It is not a matter of fairness but of practicality. If you make it to the reserve list, you then get alocated into a group which uses your same combination of languages. Logically, working in 24 languages is completely impossible, so they are organised according to the three main working languages.

In any case, we don't really know what will happen. And, what is more, there is a general requirement of having a very good standard in one of the languages and a C2 in English, French or German.

As long as you have that, you will be alright. If you want to take extra care just in case, then learn some German or French.

Hi,

luciehof Fri, 10/28/2016 - 14:50

Hi,

Im little surprised by  the message received in my EPSO aaccount.

I m invited to the next stage which is "talent screener".

I was thinking that talent screener was only used for AD7 not AD5.

Since AD5 is open to people without working eperience, why are they looking now to the talent screener ?

 

Thanks for your help

Hi,

luciehof Fri, 10/28/2016 - 14:50

Hi,

Im little surprised by  the message received in my EPSO aaccount.

I m invited to the next stage which is "talent screener".

I was thinking that talent screener was only used for AD7 not AD5.

Since AD5 is open to people without working eperience, why are they looking now to the talent screener ?

 

Thanks for your help

I'm in shock. I haven't been

elisa_encinar_89910 Fri, 10/28/2016 - 15:26

I'm in shock. I haven't been accepted in either AD5 or AD7 because 1- I have a LAW DEGREE -plus criminology. And 2- they say I dont have the required experience in, between others, Business administration.

It turns out I have almost 13 years experience in Business administration -mostly for the public admin.- I DIDNT EXPRESS MYSELF PROPERLY- because in Culture we are called culture management or production. I talk about origanising conferences, meetings and other aspects of the jobs whilst not clearly stating that its business administration.

 

Is there any action I can take to explain my situation to the Board??? I think its worth it and it is an honest mistake -I must have rushed the application.

Elisa

Haven't you got 30 out of 40?

clara.ghe_87739 Fri, 10/28/2016 - 15:52

Haven't you got 30 out of 40? I thought that the passing mark was 31...

 

At least to anyone else who

clara.ghe_87739 Fri, 10/28/2016 - 15:59

At least to anyone else who got less than 31 that was their explanation. I don't see how any experience could be relevant or not for a CBT mark of 30...

I have ben also invited to

M Fri, 10/28/2016 - 15:42

I have ben also invited to the talent screener (AD5 with 35/40 at the CBT).

What should come next? No idea...

Its what they sent me. They

elisa_encinar_89910 Fri, 10/28/2016 - 16:04

Its what they sent me. They don't say its the marks, just the degree and experience. They don't mention marks anywhere. And are you talking AD7 or AD5? I was AD7, with the option to AD5 if I met the marks for AD7.

For AD5 the candidates who

clara.ghe_87739 Fri, 11/04/2016 - 15:04

For AD5 the candidates who have been invited to the next phase of the competition obtained a minimum total of 31 points in the admission tests. I don't see how for AD7 they could have lowered the minimum required grade. Anyway good luck :)

The test is supposed to be

elisa_encinar_89910 Fri, 11/04/2016 - 15:23

The test is supposed to be tougher, so a 31 in AD7 is way higher than a 31 in AD5. Anyhow, they had in fact misread my application, and they have accepted to review it a second time.

Cheers,

Elisa

Indeed.. way higher :)) 30

clara.ghe_87739 Sat, 11/05/2016 - 08:13

Indeed.. way higher :)) 30 for AD7 instead of 31

I got the messege with the

Acero_89557 Sat, 10/29/2016 - 12:32

I got the messege with the invitation to Talent Screener, I got 36/40 for the AD5, I hope they appreciate my almost one year as Management Consultant as well as my current job as Revenue Management Analyst.

If the Assestment centre will be on January when should be sent the invitations?

Does anyone know If we should

Acero_89557 Thu, 11/03/2016 - 14:15

Does anyone know If we should expect anything this week? Cose in the case the Assestment centre will be on january they should advice some time in advance.

Hi, I suppose they will send

adinadg Thu, 11/03/2016 - 15:26

Hi, I suppose they will send invitations to the Assessment Centre latest in December, let's say before mid-December. Last time I was invited to an AC I got the invitation one month prior to the interview. So my opinion is that it's highly unprobable that we get any communication this week.

 

How do you know that the

luciehof Sat, 11/05/2016 - 08:55

How do you know that the passing mark was 31 for ad5?

Just to know, does anybody

Acero_89557 Thu, 11/10/2016 - 11:31

Just to know, does anybody knows if they send you the invitation for one specific day or you have a few different days like the test?

It's my first time in the Epso Competition, and its incredible how is taking so long.

Hi everybody!

valeriodiaz Sun, 11/20/2016 - 14:33

Hi everybody!

Any specific audit training that you would recommend for the Assesment Center specific competency interview?

Thanks

Hello there!

Auditorepso Mon, 11/21/2016 - 17:51

Hello there!

Those Brussels-based candidates who have been invited to the AC, please send me a message to auditorepso@gmail.com. I will try to create a group to practice the structured interview and group exercises.

Thank you!

Best of luck to those that

David @ EU Training Tue, 11/22/2016 - 15:59

Best of luck to those that made it to the AC.

In case it is of interest and help, there are regular Assessment Centre classroom training sessions organised in Brussels, as well as the opportunity to get some AC personal coaching in preparation for the AC exercises. 

Both training options are conducted by Jan De Sutter -  a former President of an EPSO Selection Board and co-author of The Ultimate EU Test Book – The Assessment Centre Edition. He is able to pass on a lot of experience and advice that might prove to be vital on the day.

Kind regards,

David @ EU Training

David,

Ro Wed, 11/23/2016 - 11:06

David,

Thank you for the advice. Are these training also in French?

Thanks.

Dear Ro,

David @ EU Training Fri, 11/25/2016 - 10:29

Dear Ro,

The current sessions scheduled are all in English, but our trainer speaks French so parts could be conducted in French, if expressed in advance. We have tried to run French sessions in the past, but there hasn't been enough interest in it.

Currently we have a classroom session scheduled for 2 December, that will be going ahead, since we have reached the minimum participants required to run the class. Currently we Have 3 spots left before the class is full.

Kind regards,

David @ EU Training

Dear Auditorepso,

David @ EU Training Fri, 11/25/2016 - 10:34

Dear Auditorepso,

Just letting you know that the 2 December classroom training session will be going ahead as we have reached the minimum participants required to run the class. If you (or anyone else, who has expressed to you an interest to practice the structured interview and group excercise), would like to attend this session, there are 3 spots left currently. Once these spots are filled the class will be full. 

Kind regards,

David @ EU Training

Hello,

JOHN1 Thu, 11/24/2016 - 17:08

Hello,

Does anybody know what was the passing mark (for the invitation to the talent screener) for AD5 &AD7?

Many thanks!

Hi,

jorgerp12345@gmail.com Fri, 11/25/2016 - 09:55

Hi,

The passing mark was 7 points.

If you are interested in a training group in Brussels let me know (jrphelmantico@yahoo.es).

Goog luck!!

Thank you very much for your

JOHN1 Fri, 11/25/2016 - 10:05

Thank you very much for your reply!

In terms of how may correct answers out of 40, eg. 30/40 or 31/40 at the CBT, do you know what was the passing mark/threshold?

Thanks!

 

 

31/40

jorgerp12345@gmail.com Fri, 11/25/2016 - 10:56

31/40

Thank you for your reply!

JOHN1 Fri, 11/25/2016 - 11:48

Thank you for your reply!

Hi everybody,

adinadg Fri, 11/25/2016 - 12:06

Hi everybody,

I really need a piece of advice, I had 36/40 in CBT for AD5 but I was rejected from the Assessment Centre with 0 points for professional qualification. I applied for Audit, AD5 and I clearly stated that I have a professional qualification, I am an ACCA. I assume there was a mistake in their evaluation, do you think it is possible to give to an ACCA 0 out of 12 points maximum for this question? In total I got 3 points, I was really not expecting this, having a relevant qualification in audit.

I already made a complaint and I am still waiting for their reply, in my opinion I should be preparing for the Assessment Centre, I really hope they revise their evaluation. What do you think about my case?

Thank you!

 

 

Hi, I'm in a similar

elisa_encinar_89910 Fri, 11/25/2016 - 15:20

Hi, I'm in a similar situation. I have a different degree but the required number of years of experience. However I wasn't entirely clear in my application AND they didn't read the whole of it -it clearly states I worked for 6 years as public administrator, when I actually have over 12 years-. I got a letter stating I didn't have any experience at all. So, I appealed and they admitted the case for review last 4th of November.

I still have had no reply but I would love to attend the preparation sessions. Is there any way I can track how the Board is doing or can I expect their reply soon?

By the way, ACCA has something to do with accountants? I'm not sure how seriously they take qualifications. I have a law degree but the graduate diploma in competition law and policy -its mostly finance, markets etc- but they didn't take it into account.

Thanks!

Hi Elisa,

adinadg Fri, 11/25/2016 - 16:40

Hi Elisa,

ACCA is the Association of Chartered Certified Accountants, one of the most prestigious qualifications in Audit and Accounting. The weight of qualifications is 3 and the maximum number of points is 4. I was expecting actually 12 points, given the weight. I have applied for AD5, so no experience needed, just the qualification. I don't know which other qualification is more suitable for an audit position, if not mine. That is why I think I do qualify, it is so strange they awarded 0 points.

I am wating for their reply, let's see. I don't know what is the percentage of positive reply to complaints, do you have any idea?

 

 

Well, congrats and good luck!

elisa_encinar_89910 Fri, 11/25/2016 - 16:52

Well, congrats and good luck! I only know one other case of someone who filed an appeal for review but he didn't get admitted. However, his degree was in law and his sole experience in contract law -no accountancy, admin, finance etc what is what they ask for.

I know of a second case of someone who had years of experience as an accountant recognised for a CAST position, but when applying for AD7 they didn't recognise exactly the same experience anymore and they pushed him down to an AD5. I believe he appealed but wasn't even accepted for review.

Right now I'm concerned with timing. Even if they finally decide to allow me through I absolutely need time to prepare.

To me it's obvious they are

Jan Thu, 12/01/2016 - 14:55

To me it's obvious they are trying to make some room for the insiders (this is temporary and contract agents from IAS for internal auditing and those from the Court of Auditors for external financial and systems auditing). I also received the lowest possible points for a CGAP certification (Certified Governmental Auditing Professional) which is insane. Which certifications gets 2, 3 and 4 points? The gap is too chaotic to be justified by any systematic logic. Luckily I got some other points from other questions and I am in the assessment centre. But I am sure they tried to under-evaluate the applications of outsiders. I really think you should insist in your case adinadg.

I think you might be right.

elisa_encinar_89910 Thu, 12/01/2016 - 15:17

I think you might be right.  The hadnt read my application properly, and over 12 years of experience went unrecognised. On the 4th of November I received an email saying they would re-read my application but that they couldnt accept reference letter for the jobs already established in the application because they considered it external elements. So I sais reading the application again should be enough. And they said that yes, of course they would.

Yesterday, I got this email

Dear Ms Encinar,

Thank you again for your e-mail.

The board has not examined your request as this was based on new elements you didn't mention in your application.

I herewith confirms EPSO's initial decision.

Yours Sincerely,

Luc GILLIS
 

The funny part, is that they only had to read the application again AND that the only reason why I gave them reference letters was because I was told to do so by the lady who picked up the phone at EPSO -ie , their own instructions.

By the way, how do you know

elisa_encinar_89910 Thu, 12/01/2016 - 15:20

By the way, how do you know the number of points you got?

We were informed for our

Jan Thu, 12/01/2016 - 16:28

We were informed for our points, those who passed to the next level I mean.

Still you can answer to them, that the papers you have sent are not new elements for your application, you just took the initiative to send what every candidate will send at a latter stage. Repeat that you made the complaint solely on the information you provided in your signed off application and not on the ground of new information.

In the EPSO website,

JOHN1 Sun, 11/27/2016 - 14:08

In the EPSO website, regarding the ongoing selection procedures for auditors AD5 & AD7, under ''steps'' and ''timeline'' there are the following entries:

 

     ''Application open                                                 12/05/2016
Deadline for application 14/06/2016 - 12:00(Brussels time)
Computer-based multiple-choice tests – booking period 23/06/2016 - 04/07/2016
Computer-based multiple-choice tests 07/07/2016 - 22/07/2016
Case study beginning January 2017(indicative)
Assessment Centre beginning January 2017(indicative)''

 

I was wondering why there two different entries in January 2017, i.e. ''Case study'' and ''Assessment Centre''; do these two entries both refer to the assessment centre? if this is the case, then why to have two separate entries?

Many thanks!

 

 

Case study would be done in a

Jan Thu, 12/01/2016 - 14:57

Case study would be done in a seperate date, most probable 13/01/2016. Otherwise it would be too tiring for the candidates, to go through everything in one day

Hi everybody,

adinadg Wed, 04/05/2017 - 11:38

Hi everybody,

Any ideas about the reserve list? When do you expect it to be published?

Thank you!

 

 

 

No idea, but I hope it will

valeriodiaz Wed, 04/19/2017 - 13:02

No idea, but I hope it will happen soon!! :)

Dear Assessment Centre

szabi.ho1_87722 Mon, 05/01/2017 - 23:18

Dear Assessment Centre Attendees,

I couldn't make it until then, but I'm wondering, was your case study related to audits? Did you have to use any field specific knowledge to cope with that? If yes to what extent? Or were field specific competences tested during the specific competency based interview only?

Many thanks for sharing your experience in advance!

Does anybody have received an

estelious Fri, 05/12/2017 - 10:09

Does anybody have received an estimated date for the reserve listed candidates of this competition to be informed?

Thanks!

According to the latest news

valeriodiaz Mon, 05/29/2017 - 15:32

According to the latest news on the EPSO website, they should be released by the end of this month. So let's expect to have them in the upcoming days/weeks. Good luck to everybody!!

Did anyone receive any news

CarmenR Thu, 06/08/2017 - 12:31

Did anyone receive any news in their EPSO accounts regarding the final results ? End of May passed...

Carmen, check the website,

n.rey88@gmail.com Fri, 06/09/2017 - 16:13

Carmen, check the website, they say end of june now ...

Carmen, check the website,

n.rey88@gmail.com Fri, 06/09/2017 - 16:13

Carmen, check the website, they say end of june now ...

Results were sent today at

felix.lesoir_98164 Mon, 06/19/2017 - 15:50

Results were sent today at noon!

Hello, where can I find the

aud1597_88780 Sat, 06/24/2017 - 01:02

Hello, where can I find the final results? Anyone could send me the reserve list ?

 

Thank you

You can find the results in

nicoR Mon, 06/26/2017 - 10:29

You can find the results in your EPSO account. The reserve list is not published yet. it will only be published in one our two months : https://epso.europa.eu/apply/job-offers/news/2597_final-results-competit...