e-tray

Christiane Sun, 10/01/2017 - 18:27

Dear all,

I bought some ad e-tray tests in 2015 which were completely useless at the time because they did not reflect the real system in the epso test at all. We had some communication about it and you basically confirmed it, explaining they were the first ad etrays and you didn't know how they would be. Since I will be doing etrays again, can you confirm all the tests you offer now were changed and do reflect the system and style of the real epso tests. And could you offer to change the 2015 tests I still have for adequate tests?

Best

 

I just saw I bought them 2013

Christiane Sun, 10/01/2017 - 18:32

I just saw I bought them 2013

I do not think you dare to go

andrea1236@gmail.com Wed, 10/04/2017 - 11:51

I do not think you dare to go to any store to exchange something that you bought 4 years ago. Or do you?

I do not think you dare to go

andrea1236@gmail.com Wed, 10/04/2017 - 11:51

I do not think you dare to go to any store to exchange something that you bought 4 years ago. Or do you?

I do not think you dare to go

andrea1236@gmail.com Wed, 10/04/2017 - 11:51

I do not think you dare to go to any store to exchange something that you bought 4 years ago. Or do you?

I think it is none of your

Christiane Wed, 10/04/2017 - 11:56

I think it is none of your buisness, but if you must know I communicated with the company about this 4 years ago. It is frustrating they now seem to choose not to answer any of my questions. This is not the professional service support I would expect. 

I wish to believe that the e

pgarciay_89762 Mon, 10/02/2017 - 17:26

I wish to believe that the e-tray exercises that we purchase here are just similar to those that we wil lencounter in the real test. Otherwise, I would feel deceited and frauded. An this would be very much our of Arboreus' character, which is, in my opinion, a serious firm that only puts in the market pre-tested and adequate products.

In any case, I would truly appreciate that Arboreus could answer Chistian's queries in order to blow out any doubt on this matter.

Kind regards.

Hi, there,

pgarciay_89762 Wed, 10/04/2017 - 11:38

Hi, there,

Just a few questions about the E-Tray exercise does anybody know how many questions composed it in 2015...?? And the e-mails, were they so long...??

Hi,

Christiane Wed, 10/04/2017 - 12:10

Hi,

I'll try to answer from my 2013 experience. The e-mails were quite long and you needed all the content of all the e-mails to answer every single question. Not so here, where in the very expensive package I bought each question could be answered with the content of 1 email only. Of course, the order was different but that was all.

Since I have not received any answer from EU training, can you confirm they changed this aspect at least? Does it make any sense to purchase the 'new' product? Thanks!

Dear EU-Training,

Christiane Wed, 10/04/2017 - 12:02

Dear EU-Training,

I would really appreciate if you answered my questions. If you don't I suppose the product is still the same and therefore not to be used for preparation?

Just to clarify, I was very happy with all the other products, just this one had no similaries with the actual test.

 

Dear Christiane,

David @ EU Training Wed, 10/04/2017 - 15:47

Dear Christiane,

I confirm that our E-Tray exercises have been updated based on the feedback we received from our customers, as well as on the advise of our experts. Moreover, we offer 7 sets of brand new exercises.

Best, David

What's your mean percentage

kurtzz Fri, 10/13/2017 - 21:05

What's your mean percentage in the eutraining e-tray tests?  For what I've read about past competitions, the threshold was around 65%. Mine is 72 % so far, but I'm worried it's too low.

Dear all,

pgarciay_89762 Sat, 10/14/2017 - 11:27

Dear all,

I will try to answer you Kurtzz, at the same time that I will take this messsage to jot down some personal reflections that I would like people will be able to give their feedback to.

My mark is around the same of Kurtzz's, 26,5-29/40 on the average for global values with a 72%  of correct answers (for the first attempts of course, when I repeat them after a while I can go up to 29-31/40 and 75-81% respectively).

Have you folks sat any EPSO E-tray in past...?? Did you try so hard here in Arboreus or anywhere else...?? I have bought all the exercises offered in this site  so far and tried them for ten months now.

However I heard that real E-trays are way more difficult than Arboreus' ones. Besides, I have denoted a difference in the notice of competition. Now the range of number of questions ranges between 15 to 25. Last year it was just between 15 and 20. That's in my view a clar sign that ther will be more questions this time, I figure out arround 20, which will considerably upgrade the difficulty of the test and subsequently might influence in the passing mark downwards.

 On the  other hand, there is also another differential factor this year that I regard as so important. This competition many Poles, Italians and Spaniards will sit the exam in their native speaking languages. This mean that, for them, the exam will be cosiderably easier. Indeed we cannot ignore that this exam is 65% about digesting a great deal of information, being able to swiftly find out undercover specific data. If the information is in your native language, the task, although difficult, is clearly much less time-consuming than if is not. This issue, conversely to the priorly mentioned, would clearly influence the passing mark upwards.

Finally, in my opinion, 72% is, broadly speaking, just on the average of those who tried hard for a period of time. Needless to say  that very few of those who never trained or trained so little would pass. This exercise is so demanding and practise despite not determinant, it is so important. Therefore I consider that 72% and around 27-28/40 is a score which puts you on the verge, meaning nor it does guarantee you to reach the passing mark nor the contrary. Shall God contradict me and put the passing mark much lower this time...!! Lol...

This will be my first attempt and I will sit the test in English. We will see what comes out of this new EPSO's lottery. I am not so optimistic, to be honest.

Good luck to everyone.

Poles? No Polish as far as I

shanilka Tue, 10/17/2017 - 11:00

Poles? No Polish as far as I know, just English, French, German (as before), Italian and Spanish.

Thanks for the answer,

kurtzz Sat, 10/14/2017 - 21:34

Thanks for the answer, pgarciay_89762. The stats in the practice center can be deceiving. 

Indeed they are. Nothing to

pgarciay_89762 Sun, 10/15/2017 - 09:44

Indeed they are. Nothing to do with the gloomy reality....

In my opinion, to be confident, someone should get here not below 80% and 32-33/40 to say the least (at the first attempt). Even that would not guarantee anything....All the rest, to be honest with you, do not sound good (and of course this apply also for me as I am not able to go beyond 28/40 at my first attempt).

By the way, the main thing here is not the correct answers percentage but the overall score obtained. Indeed, in this test you are being assessed on the four competences mentioned in the notice of competition and thatr assessment is contained in the overall score.

Anyway, as is told in this famous series, the reality is out there...!! lol. So, as only God know, just go for it and we will see....

Good Luck.

Dear all,

ETRay Mon, 10/16/2017 - 12:05

Dear all,

Thanks a lot for your feedback and comments, I found them really useful.

I will do the Etray in english (not my native language) and regarding Arboreus ranks I have obtained around 72 % (1st attempt) and aprox. 88 % for my 2nd time. Who knows what will be the pass mark. Being honest, under my point of view it is really difficult to say. For example, this year in CBT the pass mark were 28/40 and if you read all forum people were predecting that it would be, at least, around 34! So let´s practice and do our best!

Good luck to everyone.

Best,

I sat the E-tray exercise

py_89762 Tue, 10/17/2017 - 11:37

I sat the E-tray exercise yesterday. It was terribly harder than those offered by Arboreus, nothing to do in fact. The scenario was much more confussing and complicated, plagued with acronymes and references to projects, initiatives and chatracters that I was not even able to identify. On the other hand it was considerably longer than in the Arboreus training test. I had the impression that it was simply impossible to deal with all this info in the allotted time. I did my best but obviously I realise that my chances are almost zero.

What about you...??

Good luck to everyone.

Same impressions here. I sat

kurtzz Tue, 10/17/2017 - 20:45

Same impressions here. I sat it this morning in my mother tongue. A girls who finished when I did told me she couldn't even read the last two questions.

I did not do the test yet,

Christiane Wed, 10/18/2017 - 09:35

I did not do the test yet, but after the very "informative" answer here I was forced to buy the new "improved" tests. Not only that they didn't change their approach at all they even sold me exactly the same usless 2015 tests I already had another time! After complaining they offered to compensate me with 5 addidtional tests! Now that I explained I will not use them for preparation I got at least most of this year's etray money back...

I am as always very satisfied with the preparation for the preliminary tests, but for etray eutraining is clearly wasted money and they did not use the last 2 years to improve. If anyone knows a better option please let us know.

Good luck to everyone out there!

My impression is just the

py_89762 Wed, 10/18/2017 - 09:52

My impression is just the same. The Arboreus' e-tray exercises are simply miles away of the real tests in terms of difficulty. However, bear in mind that there is no anything better where to resort to. Needless to mention Orseu, for instance, which has got only one silly and simplistic paper-based exercise. These ones from Arboreus, despite low standarded and non realistic at all, are the closest reference to the real exams that we have got. Of course there is  a huge room for improvement, not only in terms of technical requirements of the exercise itself, but also in terms of scoring system as I guess that the system used here is much more generous than that  one (mysterious and secret, by the way, lol) used  by EPSO.

Overall, I agree with you Chistiane, but then the one million queston is: If we discard Arboreus' option, then what...??

Good luck.

Regards.